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Kim Clement’s ‘Excuse’

5 March 2004 15 Comments

Now at the Elijah List, Clement has posted his reason and his ‘clarifications’ on why Bin Laden was not captured via this article entitled “Kim Clement Expounds on the Controversial 35-day Prophecy: “Osama b*n Laden WILL be Uncovered”.

Basically Clement gives us a lot of verbage to eventually state:

“Not once did I say that the 35-day period would begin from January 10 or 12″

Clement is throwing up excuses now. He has turned from a prophet to a lawyer now trying to wiggle his way out of this by not claiming to have set a specific and defined start date. By trying to wiggle out of setting up an specific and defined start date, he is trying to make the start date so nebulous to the point of no one can pin him on his prophecy being false to where when he is captured can be ‘reverse force fitted’ to come true.

Every prophecy recorded in the Bible that had a time frame came true in that time frame. Nowhere in the Bible did a prophecy ever not come to pass outside of the time frame. Nor is there any recorded record of a prophet trying to ‘rationalize’ why a prophecy did not come to pass and blameshift.

Kim, just come out and admit and repent that you were wrong. Elijah List, hold him accountable instead of treating him as ‘your buddy’ because you had some seminars with him and not help him rationalize this flimsy excuse. I guess the dog ate someone’s calendar like the dog was supposed to have eaten some schoolkid’s homework.

15 Comments »

  • carol said:

    absolutely! this guy is something else, and we’re falling for it…

    # 7 March 2004 at 11:05 pm
  • Fred Wolfe said:

    “I guess the dog ate someone’s calendar like the dog was supposed to have eaten some schoolkid’s homework.”

    That will be the next excuse, the ’spiritual dog’ (and they will probably call it a ‘black dog’ after the Led Zeppelin song and also what Sir. Winston Churchill described his depression) ate the spiritual calendar and the warfare people will consecrate a fast and prayer to break the ‘black dog’ spirit.

    OK, I need to stop rambling but it’s the type of tripe I am hearing out of these ‘modern day prophets’. Good observation.

    # 7 March 2004 at 11:57 pm
  • Chris said:

    If you think this is bad, today is the 35th day from 3-11… no Usama. So, we hear, “What I meant.” “What God (really) said.” “What God meant (maybe).”"I’m disappointed.”"I made assumptions.”
    Some folks (not saying who) are so full of manure, you could whack it out of ‘em with a boat paddle and send what’s left of them home in a matchbox.

    # 15 April 2004 at 3:19 pm
  • Chris said:

    It’s not kim clement’s fault! Usama simply did not respond in faith to the prophecy, and so did not receive the fulfillment of it…..yeah, right.
    I noticed today that this 35-day garbage isn’t on his site anymore. How convenient! Don’t judge the prophecy, just remove it and pretend it didn’t happen!

    # 2 May 2004 at 7:30 pm
  • admin said:

    Chris:

    You are correct. I went and checked the site out last week and he had links on the main page trying to explain it away. I went today after reading your last post (post #4) and you are correct, it is removed or made not easily accessable.

    Here is one interesting forum link that has discussed this at great detail with a heated argument between the forum admin and a Clement’s web master starting on page 19 of the thread who also claims to be married to one of the ’singing girls’.

    http://faithandfellowship.com/forum2/index.php?showtopic=1026

    # 2 May 2004 at 8:41 pm
  • Michelle Cook said:

    Stop criticizing Kim Clement. I admire his willingness to speak what he believes, and, right or wrong, he is accountable to God, not YOU. If you feel he is a “false prophet”–pray for him. No one is right 100% of the time…

    # 23 May 2004 at 1:31 pm
  • Chris said:

    So, now it is about feelings, leaving out any reference to the Bible as the objective standard for right or wrong, true or false. Next, we can hear, “Who are you to judge?” or “Jesus said, ‘Judge not.’” It is interesting that “Judge not.” was in a passage about not throwing your pearls to pigs….. If I am not to exercise sound judgement, how am I to determine the ‘pigs’ to avoid? We are accountable to God for whether we exercise sound judgement and discernment.
    If someone wants to be regarded as a prophet and yet agree with someone like you, that no one is right in PROPHECY 100% of the time, I would ask who in the Bible among prophets is Kim Clement’s inspiration or model? The notion that it is OK or normal that prophets speaking for God can be inaccurate is a modern, New Age notion. Let’s not even get into the scripture that says a person who prophesies accurately and yet leads to idolatry is NOT from God… I doubt those who follow after so-called Christian (God forgive me) prophets could handle that.
    What someone says who claims to- or even hints at speaking for God is especially relevant if that person is accepted within the bounds of the Church or churchianity. If things that even appear to have eternal importance cannot rise above my word/feeling/opinion versus yours, we are all truly and desperately lost.

    # 25 June 2004 at 8:03 pm
  • Emily said:

    I think it’s interesting how quick we are to criticise and judge one another. Seems like instead of picking a man apart…maybe you could pray for him. It doesn’t fit into the definition of “grace” to set up websites attacking people’s integrity and character.
    I wonder if you missed the part about God being the judge.

    What about the other 95% of the prophetic words that Kim Clement has given that have come to pass…

    I would encourage you that you find your time better spent on seeking the face of Jesus then looking for false prophets!!!

    # 27 October 2004 at 7:12 pm
  • admin said:

    Well, what about the ‘evil at the second presidential debate”????? Nothing happened there !!!!

    # 27 October 2004 at 7:36 pm
  • Charlie Jordan said:

    Everyone of you please read Genesis 22 1 thru 13. I believe that if father Abraham was alive today and did what he did back then he would be ridiculed just like this man. Notice in verse 7 when Isaac ask his father, “Behold I see the fire and the wood but where is the lamb”, His father replied, “Son God will provide Himself a lamb for the Burnt offering.” But later on in verse 13 we see that it wasn’t a lamb that was provide it was a ram. Look at the the play on words??????…. No it’s not a play on words. It is and was prophetic. God provided Himself, in the form of the God-Man Jesus Christ as the Burnt offering at the fullness of time. Today if Abraham would have made that statement he would have been call a false prophet. STOP JUDGING AND START PRAYING……

    # 23 November 2004 at 11:35 pm
  • Dale said:

    It’s been a while and still no Osama b*n Laden

    # 27 August 2005 at 7:44 pm
  • john penn said:

    Well fellows you might want to check back into what he has been prophecying lately. He seems to have nailed something rather recent, rather significantly. Here are two prophecies he gave predicting the New Orleans catastrophe, one on August 21st, 2004, and the other on July 22, 2005:
    http://www.kimclement.com/words/2004/Aug212004.htm
    http://www.kimclement.com/words/2005/July222005.htm

    He has also made another major prediction in the wake of this disaster. I would keep my eyes on this one.

    http://www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word.html?ID=3384

    Although I doubt it will change most of your minds. You would just say: “He was prophecying the righteous Judgement of God by Beelzebub.”

    You are like those Jesus spoke of when he said:

    16″To what can I compare this generation? They are like children sitting in the marketplaces and calling out to others:
    17″ ‘We played the flute for you,
    and you did not dance;
    we sang a dirge
    and you did not mourn.’

    You will continue to find ways to spurn the gifts of God.

    ######################################################

    From the admin – Where is Osama? He’s still not captured

    # 7 September 2005 at 1:09 am
  • Miah said:

    Who will ever know if Kim is really hearing from God. Sometimes the prophesies come to pass, sometimes not. I was always taught to make sure it is really God talking to you, becuase satan is a deciever. To decieve means more than to lie. A trick is involved. But who knows. Kim, himself, may not even know for sure if he is hearing from God or Satan.

    # 28 September 2005 at 1:51 am
  • Chris said:

    Miah, I think you make points worth thinking over.
    How about:(Dt.13:1) If there arise in the midst of thee a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and he give thee a sign or a wonder, (2) and the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee….. (read the entire passage).
    Accuracy is NOT a guarantee of God’s inspiration, nor is it supposed to be an indicator of sterling character or tremendous integrity.

    I have always thought there was a great amount of prosperity and blessing content in his utterances. Even he says,”Very seldom have I have been given the duty of delivering a word that entails judgment to a region or to a person, ”

    Can’t a person sincerely believe God is speaking through them, and have others believe it, and yet be sincerely mistaken? Doesn’t this passage state that ‘accuracy’ can’t be the sole litmus test?

    It bothers me when people focus on the accuracy and forget that often it is wrapped in vagueness like seasons, veils tearing, and so forth. Another quote from Kim about hurricane Katrina:”that it was a sign to precede a time of a great promise from God for the United States in August, September, and October of this year- 2005.”

    Katrina did NOT precede this 3-month time by any means! We were almost 1/3 through it by the 25th when it hit Florida, not to mention the 29th in the Gulf Coast. What does precede mean? It depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is, I suppose.

    # 29 September 2005 at 9:33 pm
  • Butterfly said:

    Chris, you are as legalistic as the pharisees who condemned Jesus for “wrongly” declaring that the temple will be rebuilt in three days. You are using logic to decipher whether Clement speaks truth when you ought to be using perception. If you are lacking in perception, there is a great new CD on Clement’s site; it’s called “To See or not to See.”
    Counting the mounths that preceded Katrina is as religious as looking for a literal 666, the so called devil’s number and it is just as religious as counting a literal three days for a temple made out of stone to be rebuilt. (Meanwhile, the temple was Jesus’ body.)
    Not only are you counting months, but you are counting fragments of months and so you are missing the bigger picture. Those who heard about the storm before it happened, had the advantage of being able to avoid harm. That’s it. Bingo. You can dig deeper into it, but it’s hardly relevant to the Katrina victims. Keep your religiosity in check and don’t be so calculating.

    Peace,
    Butterfly

    # 7 January 2006 at 4:29 pm