An Apology to The Baptists Part II
I originally was going to write just a couple of paragraphs about my further thoughts hours after writing part one as a comment to the original article. However, the couple of paragraphs turned into another post altogether.
Thinking about part one of this post hours after writing it, I came to the realization that I could have added the words “…And The Mainline Churches” to the title.
Because in retrospect, the same principles were also applied against the mainline (Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran) churches (compromising, easy-believism, liberal, got a gym but do not have Jesus, etc…). However, the reason why I used “Baptist” only in the title was because when I was in pentecostalism, it was the Baptist churches in my area that were growing by leaps and bounds, ushering in building plans for a new sanctuary and multi-purpose gymnasium, getting paved parking lots, etc. and the only explanation that was ushered forth for the boom in growth was….
they sold out the gospel and therefore their souls in the name of fame, fortune, influence, affluence….
aka (implied but NEVER verbally expressed externally but verbally expressed internally some Sunday mornings especially when no visitors were present.)
“We” are the real Christians… “You” are the wolves in sheep’s clothing and the lukewarm Laodiceans that God one day God would spit out when you miss the rapture.
“You” love your ‘liturgical order’ that puts God in a box while our confusion and chaos allows ‘God to move’.
“You” people never see miracles and healings while “we” do.
“You” people have missions but ‘we’ go to the voodoo tribes and see them all saved and delivered from witchcraft.
“You” love to go to disaster stricken areas to provide ‘relief’ and get interviewed on television for your glory even though it was these people’s own sin that caused God to judge them by allowing the disaster to happen as a wake-up call for repentance. “You” provide ‘relief’… “We bring the message of repentance that provides real relief from their eternal torment that gives God the glory.
“You” have men with PhD’s that preach in your pulpits. “We” have anointed men and women of God who preach from our pulpits.
I remember the few families that left for these up and coming ‘mini-mega’ churches and they got the typical ‘bless you’ to their faces (I was the exception, I got the curses in my face when I left) and later on ‘curses’ of once you leave, bad things would happen to you because you have left “God’s covering”….
And when they did leave…. they became future sermon material as to what happens to you and your family when you do leave and get out of God’s ‘covering’ especially when the bad things started to happen….
You know the stories of where eventually dad loses his job and never financially recovers, mom sees the tragedies take place and when her healthy dad suddenly and unexpectedly drops dead of a heart attack becomes convinced that the church was right and they should have never left, blames her husband and divorces him and goes back to the church where her fortunes ‘turn around’, the daughter becomes a cheerleader (short skirt sex-object pentecostal no-no) to then turn off the straight and narrow path and eventually becomes the class slut turned pregnant crack whore on welfare, and straight A student son becomes dope dealer who ends up in prison, and fido breaks his leash to escape the back yard and gets run over by ‘ricky redneck’ in his super-fast bondo/primer colored Camaro with the loud stereo, ripped interior, chrome valve covers, and the nice and shiny Cragar wheels (wasn’t he supposed to have died by wrapping the car around the oak tree when he laughed at the youth evangelist at the annual youth rally?)
The businesspeople, politicians, educators, judges, and ’secret’ Christians of the local news/radio media never attended the pentecostal churches. They attended the big Baptist or mainline churches and therefore it was implied that those churches sold out the Gospel and gave those people special ‘perks, privileges, and positions of leadership’ in exchange for influence and affluence in the media and easy property zoning passages (while ‘conspiring’ to vote against the pentecostal churches wishes for rezoning of property to build their expansion plan) or favorable news coverage (and make sure you ‘conspire against’ and negatively paint pentecostal churches in a bad light) when needed.
Worse is their disdain for Habitat For Humanity because (1): It was founded by a “DEMONcrat”. (2): The Christians who attended the mainline churches (and usually held a more moderate or liberal political viewpoint) were dominant in their control by being committee officers within the local chapter and therefore, the ‘real gospel’ would never get preached. (3): How could you explain rebuilding a house for someone in need when it was ’secret sin’ or some ‘vice’ (alcohol, drugs, premarital sex / prostitution) that cause the depletion of resources and also cause those people to lose their house and that all they will do after the house is finished is to play Christian for six months to only go back to those secret sins and vices after the ‘publicity’ wore off.
Also, the pentecostal / charismatic pastors usually never were invited to lead the opening prayer at the city council, county government, or board of education meetings.
Even though I stated in part one of my article that
“You†showed class. “We†turned this into the ‘Christian class war’.
The real truth was that within the internal ranks of the pentecostal hierarchy, it was always viewed as
“They” (Baptists and other mainline denominations) ‘conspired against us’ and started the ‘Christian Class War’ by trying to promote the “Evangelical Exploitation” of us in the workplace (persecution) to eventually lead to the “Evangelical Extermination” of pentecostals because most of their members in the early 1900s left their denominations and became pentecostal and they have resented us and wanted to ‘eliminate’ us from the “American Christian scene’ ever since.
And you thought the modern-day evangelicals invented this type of thinking, the day prayer was removed from the public schools, called ‘the culture war’ when it was viewed as:
“They” (liberals, gays, and secular humanists) ‘conspired against us’ and started the ‘Culture War’ by trying to promote the “Ecumenical Exploitation” of us in the workplace (persecution) to eventually lead to the “Ecumenical Extermination” of conservative religious-right evangelicals and Christianity altogether because they resent our ’stand for God’ and they have resented us and wanted to ‘eliminate’ us from the “American Culture’ ever since.
It was always carried on ‘business as usual’ with the mentality of
“They” started the war, “We” (in God’s might) will finish the war, win the war, and reap your spoils of your big buildings, paved parking lots, and gymnasiums that got foreclosed when you succumb to the adulteress that your pastors will eventually sleep with (but it’s the pentecostal / charismatic churches that have the highest amount of pastoral adultery go figure…) that will destroy your church.
Hey, if you saw it our way (aka ‘God’s way’), this would have never happened and God’s protection would have been on your life.
Because:
(1): “Your” Liberal theology caused God to either have never been in your midst and you are really a ‘Ichabod’ in the Spirit.
or
(2): “You” touched ‘us’ (the “Davids”) and therefore ‘touched God’s anointed’ via your plots of ‘pentecostal persecution’ and ‘esoterical extermination’. “You” mainline churches and Baptists are really the “Spiritual Sauls” who wanted a King of a public leader who consulted the witchcraft of the world to run your churches and that God has left you.
I remember hearing the stories about the ‘prayer covering’ needed because the ‘atheist’ co-worker was ‘persecuting’ them and the ‘non-spiritual Baptist boss’ warned them about ‘over-proselytizing’ (seen as the ‘non-spiritual Baptist boss’ fearing that the unsaved people in their workplace would end up going to the pentecostal church instead of the Baptist church) ….
and if they got fired or had to resign…. It was due to the devil working through the persecuting atheist and the Baptist / mainline ‘wolf’ (aka ‘agents of Satan’). But that’s okay, God will give them a better job and send the persecuting atheist and the Baptist / mainline ‘wolf’ into poverty as punishment for ‘touching God’s anointed’ and somehow force the ex-employer into bankruptcy because the owners ‘touched God’s anointed’ by choosing the ‘devil’ Baptist wolf over the ’special pentecostal child of God’.
“You” and “Us” against ‘them” (and the ‘Us’ people who disagreed with you). “Everyone” (secular humanists, other ‘Christians’, etc.) were out to ‘get us’. “They” have it out for us. “They” will help usher in the antichrist via their lukewarm religion in order to extinguish evangelism and get rid of the ‘real christians’
‘ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh’
what a paranoid way to live…… and I apologize, rpent, and ask for forgiveness for my part in promoting the paranoia and fervor.
Tags: Baptist Church, Christian class war, class war, fundamental baptists, independent baptists, mainline churches, pentecostals, Southern Baptist Convention








Well, as someone who grew up in liberal Protestantism, I have to say that there was (and still basically is) a huge difference between the Baptists and the liberal Protestants of your childhood. One preached the gospel (well, most Baptist churches did) and the other did not. However, as far as the social gospel goes, perhaps today we can actually get these two together without compromising the gospel. The two I am referring to is the gospel of substitutionary atonement preached with clarity plus helping others with material needs and bringing social justice to groups.
But following seeker-sensitive and/or emergent is definitely not the way to go. So what is the way to go? Think Tim Keller with the healthy parts of Pentecostalism thrown in.
“You†people have missions but ‘we’ go to the voodoo tribes and see them all saved and delivered from witchcraft.
More like replacing their traditional tribal witchcraft with Pentecostal Elijah’s List Name-it-and-Claim-it hexes-on-all-who-touch-God’s-Anointed ronda-konda-shonda witchcraft…
Seriously, Internet Monk has stated several times (without going into detail) how American-style megachurch Christianity (and over-the-top Pentecostalism) is gaining in the Third World and doing damage there.
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