6-23-08 The First Shot Fired? Part 2
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In light of the recent J. Lee Grady article “The Tragic Scandal of Greasy Grace” and the now famous reBUTTal letter, there was a poster over at Grady’s article named ‘jks2009′ who mentioned, per their words
…the Gray Christians and the Blue Christians…
As I read this tripe
In defense of Rick Joyner
Awhile back the Lord showed Rick that a division was coming in the body of Christ, between the Gray Christians and the Blue Christians. I believe the distinguishing factor between the two is Legalism vs Grace. Those dominated by legalism are quick to condemn, those dominated by grace are quick to forgive. It is clear that the Pharisee spirit is alive and well here. I have never seen so many people just itching to throw stones at a brother, when in fact they should take the Good Samaritan role. Legalism is just as bad now as it was when Paul wrote Galatians. Jesus had strong words for those who judge others. If Jesus does not condemn Todd, and He doesn’t, according to Romans 8, who are you to condemn him? If his sin is under the blood, who are you to bring it up? Who appointed you to be judges? Who are you to judge another man’s servant? It is clear that many of you do not have a revelation of the Grace of God. You should be ashamed.
I saw where this poster has now tried to parallel the “Gray Christians” to “legalism” and the “Blue Christians” to “Grace”. I still believe (as I stated in part one) that the real spirit behind the article is David (a man after God’s own heart) versus Absalom (a rebellious seed brought forth by David’s sin).
There is another very common theme between the Christian Civil War and the U.S. Civil War (that I did not see in part one):
slavery
Where Moses came out against Pharaoh in the Exodus, Martin Luther came out against the Catholic Church in the Protestant Reformation, Abraham Lincoln came out against the Confederacy in the US Civil War, and the United States came out against Nazi Germany’s concentration camps in World War II, we are now actually seeing the parallel fight against ’spiritual slavery’ being fought where .
Orthodox and mainstream Christianity are coming out against the Revival Alliance, Third Wave Prophets, and the New Apostolic Reformation.
It is really the broadening of a public attempt of overthrow to make all churches come under their rule and authority with C. Peter Wagner as the “Pope Of Protestantism”. On that June evening, we saw the official ceremony of the secession (and the firing of the First shot) of the fringe movement fanatics who are considered ‘non-mainstream’ in a movement that is viewed by historical orthodox mainline Christianity as being ‘non-mainstream. We saw Todd receive his Gnostic decoder ring with then wife Shonnah by his side as “Stacey Shakeums” performed the Gnostic Go-Go Dance. Joyner was also on that same stage talking about longevity and unstopping wells especially the oil wells that ‘catch on fire when you unstop them’.
What we are now seeing is the rise of orthodox Christians who have decided to come against the attempted ‘re-slavery’ of Christianity and the attempted shuffling of dissenters into ‘Christian concentration camps’ where ‘concentration’ means…
Don’t think and be Berean, do as we say and you will not touch God’s anointed (actually annoying) and do the prophets (actually profit$) harm in order to achieve your blessing and your destiny.
And we know of what happened in the concentration camps, the murder of innocent people murdered via the gas chambers or firing squads and lest we not forget, the medical ‘experiments’ performed in the most inhumane of conditions. The ones who happened to survive carried around the mental and physical scars, pain, tattoos, and branding for the rest of their lives.
And we are now seeing testimony after testimony of what is happening in the Christian concentration camps, the spiritual murder and malnourishment of Christians who voluntarily went there to be part of the ‘elite remnant’ to end up in the gas chamber sanctuary of hot air shouts of warfare and Christian catch phrazes while some participated in the mantra and meditative experiments of ‘cutting edge’, ‘next level’, and ‘new thing’ teachings. Some develop the spiritualized Stockholm Syndrome and sympathize with the ones who teach this nonsense and eventually join their side in the fight. Some see the truth but die spiritually at the treatment of the scorn, shame and ridicule given to them. Some eventually escape but possess for many years up to the end of their life the mental and spiritual scars, pain, tattoos, and branding for the rest of their lives.
We are now also seeing the rising up of Godly men and women to prevent the ‘genocide of the godly’ via the attempted ‘holy holocaust’ of those who disagree with them and/or are deemed as not being ‘anointed’ (a spiritual form of “blonde-haired, blue eyed Aryan” social theories) enough to be considered as part of the mega remnant.
This isn’t the Third Wave (or as my buddy Triple-P calls it, the ‘Third Rave’), it is becoming more and more like the uprising and attempted global Christian conquest similar to Adolph Hitler and the Third Reich of Nazi Germany.
As Hitler blamed the Jews for all of Germany’s problems, the modern third wavers, N.A.R., Kingdom Now, Morningstar, Dominionists, ‘Latter Reign’, and ‘revival alliance’ followers are blaming all the orthodox Christians for all of Christianity’s problems by not coming unto unity unanimity with them. What is most bizarre is that when the war was all over, Hitler left behind a mess that got divided and squandered and the ‘Cold War’ began of democracy against communism. And just like the defeat of Hitler, the leaders of the modern third wavers, N.A.R., Kingdom Now, Morningstar, Dominionists, ‘Latter Reign’, and ‘revival alliance’ followers when exposed will leave Christianity into a further state of chaos and confusion and we could easily end up with a Christian Cold War where balance and correct Scriptural interpretation could be up against extremist legalisms and regulations.
Both Hitler and these NAR leaders wanted something so ‘precious to them’. Global Control. Hitler wanted to rule the world. The NAR leaders want to rule the Christian world by either all the churches submitting to them or via infiltration into society and culture via the “Seven Mountain Mentality” that is being taught today.
What appeared to have been the ‘covert’ declaration of war of the modern third wavers, N.A.R., Kingdom Now, Dominionists, and prophetic movement versus the historical orthodox Christian movement (in their attempt to usher in a Latter Rain consisting of a dominionist rule by some Manifest Sons of God ’spiritually killing’ anyone necessary who ‘gets in the way’) in June 2008 has now turned into the overt attack coming from the person responsible for “Celebrity Christian Repentance” against a man (that I have disagreed with in the past on many issues) who has rose up and denounced this farce of a movement for what it was, a spiritual sham in March 2009. And what did J. Lee Grady get back in return?
A form of Christian cyberbullying in Joyner’s response and especially this paragraph:
I think you owe Todd, myself, Bill, and Jack apologies for your presumptuous judgments. I think they should be as public as this letter was. If not, I feel that I will have to address this publicly, and I don’t think that is in your best interest.
And we thought cyberbullying was a MySpace phenomenon. But by Mr Grady posting the letter online, he has now taken the stance that he refuses to be bullied around and beaten up for his lunch money as documented in the ‘counter-rebuke’.
To J. Lee Grady, I say thank you for the rebuke. It was definitely needed to expose the quickie divorce/remarriage mentality that permeates the charismatic movement today. It was needed to call out the excesses within this movement and we have now seen the ruthlessness of the Charismatic movement.
This war is going to last a very long time and alot more battles, rebukes, and bullying is going to take place. And at the first of the war, it’s going to look rather hopeless. But like Moses, Martin Luther, Abraham Lincoln, and Franklin D. Roosevelt, someone will be called forth by God to further expose and to set the captives free from the bondage and win the war for the fight and preservation of orthodox Christianity.
It will be repentance that will bring forth a move of God to this nation. Not rebellion and kneeing people in the stomach. We did not hear repentance mentioned at this revival. Just hollow and empty promises of a new dominion, a couple of dancers, some theatrics…
Maybe next time, we will hear repentance….
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Excellent analysis!